Wild West.

If you ever wondered what it might be like careering across the undeveloped Wild West in a runaway stagecoach,  you might get some idea by making a late night journey on a South Western Railways train from London Waterloo south via Guildford.... to, say, Havant.

F arrived home really really late complaining about trains again.

Apparently if you leave London Waterloo bound for Havant on a late night train (say 2230), for no obvious reason South Western Railways replaces the 10 coach long distance trains it uses at peak commuting times (say 1830) with 12 coach suburban trains.

The numbers difference is that the peak time trains have fewer seats (2 each side of the aisle) in fewer carriages. The suburban trains have off centred aisles with 3 seats one side and two the other - 25% more seats late at night, and 2 extra carriages.

The suburban trains also have much less seat padding, and considerably less under-carriage suspension and roll-damping. This results in the passengers experiencing concussive random lurching from side to side (particularly on the bit of line between Godalming and Haslemere) as the train rattles over tracks that really have no place underneath a modern train proceeding at anything over 15 miles per hour. 

Whiplash was mentioned. Spinal injuries were hinted at.


Methinks she doth complain too much.




The line is to be closed for a week this month to 'bring it into the 21st Century'; allegedly to make it so that more trains per hour can run over it (i.e. go faster we guess), but the reality these days is that so many trains get cancelled for lack of staff (declining to work overtime, or simply on strike), the passengers who suffer the line are unlikely to see any appreciable improvement in their overall travel experiences any time soon. 

Bring back the stagecoach...

Comments

  1. Perhaps they are hoping that passengers will just be so grateful that any trains at all are running that they'll keep quiet about the discomfort?

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  2. Maybe she needs a motorbike.

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    1. She sold the motorbike before we went to Greece. She had done 12 years of motorbike commuting. Now she uses the time for knitting and 'lets the train take the strain'.

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  3. For a period of 18 months Gail ended up 'reverse' commuting, from Clapham Junction to Woking, on South Western Railways. The trains were in general fast, smooth and empty. In summer she sometimes put her bicycle on the train in the morning then rode the 23 miles home after work. She doesn't remember ever catching the train late at night, there not being much to detain one in Woking in the evening!

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    1. F is very impressed at Gail riding 23 miles after a day at work. Gail wouldn't recognize the Woking of 2023.

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  4. British trains abd their infrastructure- save for a few premium lines - are essentially rubbish. Expensive too.

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    1. Eye-wateringly expensive for casual users/day trippers.

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  5. Hari OM
    Aye, Tigs ol' boy, public transport is really the thing that ought to be getting moolah ploughed into it for all sorts of reasons... yet it suffers badly. Wait till I tell you and F about my experiences on the buses today... hugs and whiskeries, YAM-aunty xxx

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  6. with the stagecoach we could at least maybe get a pet or two on the horses. we have no trains here, one a day from tampa but itis a long distance as in florida to new york train. we have so many people and houses there is no room for tracks. Tigger you look soooo precious.

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  7. If you think that's bad, then you should try travelling on local trains in the North of England.

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    1. Do they still have wooden seats in third class?

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  8. I remember my first ride on a train - I was a child and we took the railcar from Matamata to Auckland (that service doesn't exist now). The seats were hard wooden pews, we rocked from side to side the whole way, the noise was horrendous and going over bridges was terrifying. It is a wonder I ever hopped on a train again!

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  9. I remember having a slight panic because of planned train strikes Thankfully on the day we were traveling they postponed the strike from the day before and resumed it the day after. Not sure why. But I was very grateful indeed

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    1. Trains are great when everything works as it should (which unfortunately is not regularly).

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  10. Whatever happened to 'Let the train take the strain'?

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